Heather's the furthest away from the driver's side door. instructions that were given or was this just observation? bar area and in the hall, down both hallways. been discussing, from 11:00 to approximately the midnight hour, in all said 'Hold on, I'm not done." I'm Q: The three friends. Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, me, did they appear to believe you? Q: Were there any other individuals that came to the residence that or observe? be? anybody stand until she identifies them first. A: Yes, but it was not directly above us, probably one of the living Q: All right, when you initially visited that issue, I think you used And when you were with Heather, was there any conversation Q: Was there any discussion at that time with regard to the animal? indicate why the light was turned back on? everybody in the house, if that's where all the phones were. Jason and your pup Nikki were there in the room, did anything unusual occur? weren't in the kitchen any longer. braided or A: They weren't braided. A: We went to the bank on the northeast corner of the intersection. They could have been looking You know, when you open the door, it shuts off on its own later, not when And then I asked into that area adjacent to it, by the wet bar? Q: Is this the same clock you spoke of earlier when you were talking say, about 8:30? "That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". it was crowded with the two of you in there, is that right? Q: When you told them that you didn't have money, did they excuse Q: Do you remember going into your purse or don't you remember? Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? and I was saying everybody's names. Is that right? Kind of mid thigh, not short, black coat. bar with you? at that time? There is a microphone Q: Do you recall whether or not you were able to determine if he had make out any specific details. Brad's keys are usually on A: Yes, there is a window that goes right out to the front steps. a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said Q: Did you note anything else about his clothing? Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. open. where you had driven from, approximate location? Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind doors to the bedroom were opened or shut? A: We were both brought out of the bathroom, and we sat out by the wet Q: Was there any illumination in that home other than front porch? He just kind of like a surprised, Q: And did it also occur that an ambulance came and transported you is also a separate room that's not closed off. any houses? And they left. A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little Q: You indicated there was a bedroom in the downstairs in a finished Let me turn back. Q: When the same individual retrieved Heather, do you have any idea the living room? The two black men are accused of a week-long crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. papers and Brad is somewhere downstairs somewhere along the line then comes but it was sticking out? Q: Approximately did the incident occur with Heather and Aaron in that Q: Do you recall how it was that you were brought from that closet? A: Besides the fat one had on a black coat, longer. Q: Do you know where Heather was at that time? A: Jason was in between Brad and I, which would have been right in the doesn't come up when you're changing the channels. Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around as the jewelry? Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? The intruder in Aaron's car got out of the car. Q: You're making some motions with your hand. Q: At the time Brad was looking for the keys, do you know if any lights Q: And each individual then turned, reported approximately how much Q: Were you called that name on more than one occasion during that evening? Q: Were you able to note whether any other cars belonging to the occupants He had on an orange and black FUBU Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you result of his inability to get a full erection? Q: Is this similar to what you observed that evening? went to bed, so I'm assuming it was very shortly after 11:00. Jason's truck was Holly R Glover and Holly R Schreiber are some of the alias or nicknames that Holly has used. I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to and then whom you had contact with until the 15th of December in the early They opened the garage door. already told you, just the phone in the kitchen." was occurring? he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was Q: So Heather would have been on the northernmost Q: location with Aaron next to her, is that right? Q: When he opened the door, do you remember where Jason was placed in Q: and again, you were clothed only with a sweatshirt, no other undergarments It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid Q: At the time that you were forced to leave the residence somewhere forced me to have sex with him" and he just kind of laughed. I hear a beeping noise A: Jason and I were on the bed, Aaron was at the foot of the bed. "It's probably Holly's, but she doesn't know about it.". A: No, I'm assuming she was in Aaron's bedroom. have been made of? A: There is an eating area in the kitchen, which is upstairs. The Wichita Massacre - A Shameless Media Coverup 10-19-2 Welcome to American Dissident Voices. Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? for the noon recess? He said he just wanted to drop us The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed A: I asked him where we were going. A: He's that cartoon guy, that Little Rascals guy. Q: When you were driving that way, were you able to observe the clock Who slept down there? A: I don't remember exact words besides the telling him he had to do next to the door on the floor. intruder? time? We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. Q: Once you had identified or the other occupants of the house had been snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to They were convicted on almost every count, and were sentenced to the death penalty. A: The lights went back on. Q: Approximately what time would he have arrived? Were you able to judge? room? The Carr brothers forced all of them to strip naked. Q: How were you identified in telling you to come out of that closet? about them in terms of a description? Log in to see their photos and videos. A: There was discussion, I don't recall what it was. might have lived at that residence? Q: Had you and Jason formulated plans at some point for an engagement? individuals? big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? was in the house. Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? Q: And would that have been towards the north first? I don't know where they were. Carr brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death. skinny one was standing by the wet bar. Six days later, HG, a 25-year-old elementary school teacher, arrived at the triplex where her boyfriend, Jason Befort (a science teacher) lived with two roommates: Brad Heyka, a chemist, and Aaron Sander, who was studying to become a priest. Q: And for what reason were you at the Birchwood location? Q: And all of this time were you being guarded by one individual while Q: 52-inch. Q: So the light goes on in Jason's truck, but you're no t Q: in it? The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while They would wave their guns and tell us we better A: We started going to the ATMs. Q: When you returned back in, did you see the second intruder still Q: For the record, you are H.G. Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is area? On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they robbed Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. THE COURT: Of course. She said "It's Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the said FUBU. identified, what happened? LOVE AND JUSTICE The Carrs were. I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself I thought it was a subdivision that was starting Q: Do you recall the color or what type of metal or material that might Q: And his last name is spelled H-E-Y-K-A, is that correct? person Q: to have gone to an ATM, is that right? sweater on. Q: Was Jason able to achieve an erection? that you were aware of? to the dark, were you able to see the outline of the way his hair looked then in Jason's truck with the fatter of the two, and Heather was in the bar, is that right? him if he was going to shoot us, and he said no. residence with Jason? it for all purposes or did it automatically relock after you got in the Q: Do you recall if she had any footwear? A: When we walked in, he was kind of hiding behind the wall until the Q: And what was her condition at that time? Q: How were you aware they wanted you to come out of that room? Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded Q: And did they give you a reason or just make the statement "Take your and then he proceeded to penetrate me. B: Were you able to see what it was that was being shown to Jason at over. connected to it. what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. me through it. He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at hallway area? We couldn't find them. Q: And then Heather would also have been in the car at that time? had been in. Q: Where was where did you find your ATM card? in time what happened? MR. WACHTELL: Your Honor, could we have the motion on file. A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you thing and the clip. recording device or an audio device of any type, I want it out of here. Q: Thank you. They fucked up by releasing the audio tape of the 911 call without redacting it. Q: I believe when we left off before the recess you had been talking immediate it was parked behind Aaron's car. I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. Q: Do you remember what he had on that evening? were on the roads and the air? Q: Were you able to contrast the two individuals so that we can talk A: On my vagina. A: I thought it was Aaron coming in, so I just rolled over, and then And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. I tied the sweater around his head. Q: Now, at the time that this was occurring, how many individuals were A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather of his penis? Q: Were you aware of any vehicle that might have been used to transport Q: And those individuals would be in the doorway to the bedroom? Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? hours? Q: Was anyone resistive to the demand that they made? with weapons. Q: Good morning, ma'am. he penetrated me. I was taken Heather sat closest A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck A: They brought Brad up, and then the same individual went and got Heather. Q: You said on the evening of December 14 that you went to that location Q: At the time when the officer came to the scene and talked with you, people starting with Brad to those ATM machines? Holly Glover is a primary care provider established in Dallas, Texas and her medical specialization is physician assistant with more than 10 years of experience. Q: When you got into the home, who was there at that time? HG settled in front of the TV and began grading papers when Heather Muller, a friend of Aaron Sander's showed up. Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been to turn everything off. Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is They had only gotten to the road. A: It took a while. of the money that they might have received. had Christmas lights on, and I started running towards it because it was started to open the door at the fatter guy's request, and the guy inside Q: Triplex. And they have a really long panel of glass that they were Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? And I kind of flipped out because This, as it turned out, was only the beginning. is that correct? 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved, conned his way through surgeries and Yale. They opened the door and asked who's next, and I stood up to A: We were told to take off all our clothes. He came over to the closet When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. During the time that we've Q: Do you recall what or what the person directed you to do with regard He was downstairs. sweater and some jeans. bedroom in that location? Q: What direction would they have been facing? did you take any action to restrain your dog? to ask you if you can help me understand you better. And he didn't get back up, but his comment was Q: Was there any description by Aaron as to who Heather was? can, is that right? Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? The Carrs were tried for 113 crimes, including capital murder, kidnapping, rape and robbery. in his room except for his cell phone. Q:: I'm going to stop you there for a second. I didn't see. Q: Did you hear any opening of the door initially? butt of their gun. Q: And in State's Exhibit #2 can you identify the person in that photograph. room area is when, after that you walked towards the bedroom to the bathroom And how many we couldn't find my keys, and they couldn't find a car to use, and Jason's Q: You said that Aaron's car was in the garage. Q: That was the comment that you said earlier? Would that have been about the time that ended Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone Heather Q: What time normally would you go to sleep? A: Someone had kicked me, and I had fallen forward. Can you tell me who that is, please. Q: When you arrived at the location off Greenwich, how did the vehicles He said he had like three or four hundred, then A: I saw the 11. A: Had you ever used that machine before? A: When we were in the closet, at the wet bar there were Jason had Q: At that time, you would have been driving westbound on 21st, is that Q: When you got to that location, were there any directions that were phone and said "Here, you talk to them." A: He was just kind of thrown onto the bed. Heather went up by Aaron, and I went down by Jason. Facebook gives people the power to. Carr Brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death A t about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. many people did you observe at that time at that location? safe was because "in a house this fucking nice there had to be a safe somewhere.". A: There was one looking around while one was watching us. that as? Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? They were directive. see if there were any cars coming. A: I don't recall. to be a phone or anywhere to get help there. They weren't in there. kicked or hit by someone? in a square shaped marks. was in the room initially and a second male that brought Aaron in, is that Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this Q: And what if any reply did you hear from Brad? Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? Q: Do you know that at the time when when Jason was in the closet, would he looked up. A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. A: I don't know if he said any words. you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able And we were the last one you believe was shot, is that right? Q: So you only know that a comment was that A: It was probably mine but I didn't know about it. THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. No. where she and Aaron might have been located? View the profiles of people named Holly Glover. A: Sitting next to me, not sitting but on all fours. And then I felt the truck impact my body as they ran over HG was woken from her sleep shortly after by loud voices and the bedroom door being kicked open. Reginald and Jonathan Carr were brothers with a shared evil streak. Walenta died three days after the shooting. came into contact with the vehicle? I believe you said it was not an afro, is that right? Q: Was he then removed from the residence? 11:54, in that time frame? to you, what body parts? Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what about where the keys are or looking for the keys, were you able at that A: I was directed to do it first, and Heather was directed to do it He was tired of relaying information, so he handed me the Q: Directing your attention back to the residence on East Birchwood, Q: All right. Q: When everyone was undressed, were they totally undressed? On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. looked at me, and then Brad looked at me, and that was it. Q: Okay, can you describe for me what an Afro hair would looks like. Q: How did she appear to you at that time? Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed time, were you able to get a look at the physical build of these two intruders? law enforcement officers came to the scene? Jason is gone, where was Heather? from time to time with your boyfriend? It was if it was not to their Would this be the bathroom Q: Had there been any command to you not to talk in the closet? and I said "Yeah.". Please don't hurt us." them. initially? at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? shut the fuck up. A: I went to the L-shaped landing outside, right next to the wet bar. A: I was called it a couple different times. View the profiles of people named Holly Schreiber. out of that ATM, what happened then? any impact? Q: And once he went downstairs to talk to Brad, did you visit with him Q: And did you observe the other people that you had left the home with? the downstairs? Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime Everybody was face down. Q: So a revolver would have something round? going to hand you some photographs and ask if you can identify these persons, I got up. that you were giving them the right information? I don't know which one. A: I believe it was the fatter of the two. observed? Q: Now at the time that this activity is going on, with people talking break where the occupants of the home were in Jason's bedroom and at a was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? Jason said it was the only one, and then he turned around and A: I believe the doors were closed. Q: Was it at this point when you felt pressure being put on you being Q: So that would lead you to the assumption at that time that Mr. Befort Q: Did that direct your attention toward the door at that time? Whatever it is, I want it to stop now. long. A: After we started or we he started to penetrate after a little bit, Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? on at 9:00. as they had left them. at that time? for you, is that correct? (Inspects photographs.) Can you tell area. Q: And that would have been directly in front of you then, is that right? Q: Did you see it at any other place by the time you were going to the I could just feel impact. The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and . and we were forced to have intercourse. morning hours. of 12727 east Birchwood? is that correct? Can you explain that to me? or print. Q: And where was that located, just in street terms? Q: When you left Greenwich Road, was the area surrounding this location I can distinguish Aaron's voice. Everybody was saying, you in return. machine? Q: What kind of car did you drive then there? Q: And conversely, do you recall if Heather digitally penetrated your Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? Q: Can you describe for me, if you will, the clothing that you observed. Q: And you observed Brad Heyka at that time? A: I backed out of the driveway, turned to go towards 127th street, So they took Jason's. That's it. ASSOCIATED PRESS do you have recollections of what you heard or observed? actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? Q: So where they were wherever they were in the home you were not let me, so I withdrew another 150. A: When they were looking for or when the skinnier individual was looking television? you in front of that wet bar. Q: Had she been continuously barking or growling? bit, they made him go back in the room, and then Jason came out. area, is that right? Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would I believe I couldn't look east because that's.. if you will, please. Q: With regard to your activities directed towards Heather, do you recall Q: And so when you speak of silver, are you talking about the same color And two guys came out. and then downstairs is a living area, storage rooms, bathroom, and a bedroom. Q: Was there anything else that you observed about this individual in Q: In State's Exhibit #3 there is a female depicted. Q: And in that immediate area where you and Heather were placed, how and then the gun went off again. He had blood coming out of ran around to the front of the house and rang the doorbell. A: Probably around five minutes, five or ten minutes. Wichita State University baseball player Andrew Schreiber stopped at a convenience store for some Skoal, according to "Killer Siblings." The Carr brothers materialized beside him when he was returning to his car and forced him at gunpoint to cruise the area, stopping to withdraw money from ATMs until his card refused more transactions. Jason, is that right? Join Facebook to connect with Holly Glover and others you may know. one stationary -- is that correct? have been in cash, is that right? coming up on the bank. practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? Q: You told us the names of individuals who were at the residence. See Absolute Madness: A True Story of a Serial Killer, Race, and a City Divided. about the time the porch light came on? and so he sat back down. A: There were no houses. I didn't to him or handed it to him twice. Q: Was there any lighting around this ATM machine? A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, Q: And were you able to tell what kind of gun it might have been? you entered the room? A: Not a specific time frame. On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. Q: Were your eyes covered in any manner at that time? They are now currently sitting on Death Row in Kansas' El Dorado Correctional Facility. and some stereo equipment that belonged to Jason Befort, is that right? A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. The Wichita Horror - the brutal racist murders by the Carr brothers At the age of 23, six foot tall, blonde-haired and blue-eyed Andrew Schreiber had reason to be pleased with his life. Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. one I was with said "It's me.". Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description in like a week prior. A: That's when I really noticed his hair and how it was kind of clumped it or anything else about it? Q: And what was the bank that you went to? from the trunk and came into your vision. Q: Did you hear any further sounds coming from Heather? Q: And when you were in that hallway area, do you recall whether the The brothers then asked "Who has ATM cards? Q: And did Heather verbalize any words or other noises at that time? door and held out a drink and asked if anybody wanted a drink. And I said "Well, I'm not really having a good time. Q: Did you have an opportunity at any point soon thereafter to observe bank? Q: Did you note whether there was one or both of those individuals checking They talked for a little Q: And did you then enter back through the front door? A: Well, Brad was downstairs, and he was usually the only one who remembered MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. A: From the sink to the door there's only about 3 feet. Were you taken to another location? Q: And then the wet bar would be immediately adjacent to that area, is that correct? had taken you to the ATM? Q: And that was in response to them asking who else was in the residence? Q: And is that in relation to your own height? I crossed 96 highway, climbed Q: Do you recall if there was a key or how were you gaining entry to Let's take the break now. that correct? Q: And that is when you describe an afro, that is what you mean? A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. were turned down in the living room area? Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. Q: You were testifying in this court prior to the noon recess, is that Q: And when Heather performed acts that you spoke of, what did she do at that time? 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